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Yes the big10 is a horrific football conference. That alone is the reason you should stop donating to your school or being less of a fan. I mean they are 3-13 in BCS games and last year their conference champion allowed 70 points in the Orange Bowl. Oh wait...
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If you can't see how B10 football is a massive improvement over the ACC, then I just don't know what to say. This is a down year for the B10, and they are still top-down, a much stronger conference. I would take a division with Penn State and Wisconsin over NC State and Clemson any day.
Culturally the B10 is a better fit. I'm from the Northeast (north of Maryland) as are a third of all Maryland students. My friends don't go to school in the South, they go to Indiana and Michigan. Even if Maryland's athletic department was flush with cash, I'm pretty sure we would still take the extra 15 million offered by the B10. You can do a lot with that kind of money.
Here's a B1G fan who would much rather see #15 and #16 be UVA and VT as a package deal.
Nothing against UNC, but you're just not a very good cultural fit for our conference. Besides, with you guys its all about the cache' you bring in basketball, but without Duke your brand takes a significant hit imo. Similar to TAMU moving to the SEC without Texas.
I know Delany has a hard on for his alma mater, so you're a prime target unfortunately.
As a B1G fan I'll take VA and NC. Both are an academic fit with OK football and good basketball. B1G is the best BB conference and with these two cements it for years to come. Where else can NC go? They will not go to the SEC with their poor academics and the ACC looks like it is at risk because of a poor TV deal. The B12? I doubt it.
Looks like it has been really tough on A&M. Ranked in the top ten after beating Alabama. They have the leading Heisman candidate and are getting more publicity than they ever did connected to Texas. By the way, where is Texas ranked right now after losing to TCU? I think we would be just fine without Duke and I would rather it be in the SEC.
Hey Heels fans,
I'm a big time UNC basketball fan and am really hoping the rumors of UNC and UVA joining the B1G are true. I guess time will tell.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
You watched one Nebraska game and made that judgement? Do you know how cold it was during that game? Their was +25mph wind, in 15 degree windchill. How do you think some SEC squads would perform in those conditions? Even Bo Pelini said it was one of the coldest games he's ever been a part of. I would really love to see some warm weather schools play football in conditions like that
Just as long as it's not in the B1G, I wish you the best.
That is my point.
What’s your guy’s opinion on this article about the political battle NC State would face, if they tried to leave? Does this mean you guys are a packaged deal?
In the last hour a pair of emails have dropped into the MrSEC.com inbox asking if NC State and Virginia Tech are really going to join the SEC. After a
No, we're a package deal with UVA. No expanding conference wants two schools that bring one market. Just doesn't make sense financially.
And also we are the crown jewel of both of these conferences. The only way either of them go after other schools is if we give them a firm no. UVA has zero interest in the B1G so unless they pull VT, they're out. All of their schools MUST be in states that border states of other members.
The SEC has tentative plans to launch a network that will have the best tv revenues for football AND basketball and the reason they want us so bad is for our basketball so they will likely wait on us until we make a decision.
I have sent a few emails to Bubba voicing my concerns and wishes from a fan and donor standpoint and he has responded. I encourage posters here to sent him and all the BOT members emails doing the same. Obviously make them well thought out and of sound reasoning both on the athletic side of things as well as the academic side. Their emails are in the public domain
This is sad.
Since when did this conference get so lazy as to not get it's own house in order.
Why are we looking at other conferences again? Why are we in the state that we are in?
All this talk about going to another conference is pathetic. Explain to me how UNC is NOT responsible for the state of this conference's athletics, especially when it comes to decision making at the executive level when it came to starting a conference television network?
If North Carolina entertains a call from either the SEC or Big Ten, I curse the conference they join into bankruptcy.
I highly doubt Swofford made the moves he made without the glowing approval of UNC, UVA, Duke & Wake Forest.
The Atlantic Coast Conference: A Tradition of Excellence... Then, Now and Always
The ACC has been dead for 3 years. One school cannot be held accountable for the administrative decisions or the athletic success of an entire conference.
Why would any network want to support the launch of a secondary network that features a conference of mediocre teams in all the major sports?
And I hate to add fuel to the fire but the B1G has made their pitch and the SEC is making theirs. Bubba is listening very much pro SEC and HT is backing him up and making in roads to the BOT. Hundreds of emails have been sent by alumni, donors, and fans voicing their concerns about the future of our University and they are starting to listen.
Face the reality that the ACC is headed downhill fast and Navy, UConn, Louisville, or Cincinnati are not going to save it. We are looking out for ourselves and doing what we have to do
HATE the SEC, but if ya can't beat em, join em! Would rather stay in the SE than go to the mid-west. Damn that's depressing. Losing all those ACC records is all I'm really sad about. We'll keep the rivalry with Duke, and hopefully NCSU, and somehow UVA at least occasionally. Where will FSU and Clempson end up if the ACC falls?
Why do you hate the SEC?
And FSU and Clemson would likely end up in the Big 12
Because I resent their insular, arrogant, redneck attitude. Also don't like their disregard for academics, and frankly I think they all cheat their A**** off. I think the reason they haven't been dealt with is b/c of their huge contract with ESPN, and the money they bring in to the NCAA.
On another note, I've always felt the ACC had a touch of class... The SEC on the other hand represents quite the opposite of the Southern Gentleman. Maybe a Gentleman Jack is more appropriate? Anyway, can't fight the $$$.
Take a look at the academic rankings of Vanderbilt, UF, and UGA. If you put us and UVA into that division it will be very similar to what it'd be if we joined the B1G. There's not much weight to that argument or the argument of the NCAA being involved with the SEC more than there is in the ACC
UNC and Florida State are the lynch pins of the ACC. Both schools can essentially go wherever they want to. B1G or SEC? It doesn't matter. The problem is that our administration puts us on a pedestal academically and will probably never allow us into the SEC. I would love to see us play Kentucky every year in basketball and elevate our program in Football. Just saying
The SEC is not an option for Florida State as the SEC already has the Florida market with UF. Their options are the Big 12 or the B1G and seeing as they have zero interest in the B1G, the Big 12 is their option
Florida and lil Carolina will block any attempt by FSU and Clemson anyways to go along with them adding no additional revenue to their existing tv deal
Whose fault for the this conference mediocrity but the schools who have decided against the pursuit of excellence on the field of football. It's hypocritical for any academic & athletic leader to blame their mediocrity on other teams when every team has the same opportunity to add value to the conference. That's what makes the other conferences stable....collective commitment.
I really hope you all read this article before you continue to fan the flames of defection.
ACC football has struggled on the field and in the stands. That must change soon.
You're missing the point that this ENTIRE thing is hypothetical based on if other major ACC players decide to leave. I'm not saying we are going to be the first to leave. In fact, I've stated the exact opposite.
If Maryland wins this litigation that they are now a part of and don't have to pay the $50 million, FSU and Clemson will have been watching closely and have a decision to make. ND could save the ACC if they decide to come in to the conference as a full member but who out there would come and make the football side a viable conference?
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